©2020 Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association, 2 Lycoming IO-320-C1A, 160 hp @ 2,700 rpm, Payload with full fuel (basic aircraft) with tip tanks, Fuel capacity, standard/usable with tip tanks, Single-engine rate of climb (gross weight), Cruise speed, ff, std range/range w/ tip tanks, Turbo cruise speed, ff, range w/ no reserve, Economy cruise speed, ff, range w/ no reserve, VSO (Stall speed with gear and flaps down), VMC (Minimum control speed with critical engine inop), VYSE (Best single-engine rate-of-climb speed), VLE (Maximum landing-gear-extended speed). All this plane needs is a new home. Currently there is only one Bailey Bullet in existence, and last word was that the Baileys were asking $450,000 for this beauty. This well equipped Twin Comanche CR has been owned by a physician/War Bird Pilot/A&P. Instructors routinely pulled an engine just after takeoff. In 2007 he decided to reenter the gun business by opening Osage County Guns at his rural facility. This and all the other Robertson STOL STCs are now owned by Sierra Industries of Uvalde, Texas (210/278-4381). Armed with fresh A&P and private pilot certificates, Pepper settled in northern Illinois and returned to the phone company. Pepper’s fond memory of his efficient Twin Comanche, coupled with the costs of flying the big cabin-class Cessna, led to his decision in 2012 to find a Twin Comanche that would perform similarly to his Chancellor. • L-3 Avionics WX-500 Stormscope Magneto and starter switches were moved to a side panel, electrical switches were converted to internally-lighted rocker switches, and the circuit breakers were moved to the lower right subpanel. The overhead trim crank remains as a nod to the airplaneâs history. The Society serves as a vehicle for Comanche-specific training programs offered by instructors completely familiar with these airplanes and sponsors regular fly-ins of the Comanche faithful. Piper Twin Comanche Aircraft Information. For all its performance, it may be hard for some to believe that Twin Comanches use fuel injected variants of the venerable — and nearly bulletproof — 160-horsepower Lycoming O- 320 engine. These units have been converted to the -7 & -8 configuration [o-ring seats]; aka P/N 492-136 and 492-137. Such objectives may seem incompatible in the same airplane, but the truth is that from 1963 to 1972 Piper built about 2,200 airplanes with those characteristics. In effect, the pilot who lets his Twin Comanche — or any other multiengine airplane, for that matter — lift off before reaching VMC (plus five or so knots) bets his life that an engine won't fail. It is STC'd for both standard and counter rotating models. The options list was expanded to include wingtip fuel tanks, a heated windshield, propeller anti-ice, and an oxygen system. Already a member? 15.00x6.00x6 nose tire stc. Is the Twin Comanche a dangerous airplane? Add the tip tanks and top off the other four wing fuel tanks and payload drops to 650 pounds or so. A place for owners, pilots, and enthusiasts of the Piper Comanche and Twin Comanche series of aircraft to share experiences and exchange information to enhance the airworthiness and enjoyment of these fine aircraft. Supplemental type certificates originally owned by J.W. Expect a continuation of the Twin Comanche's airframe problems and go into ownership with the understanding that considerable investments in airframe fixes and additional inspections may be necessary down the road. rudder, aileron, flap gap seals. Speed Spinners, Set of Two. Devotees are organized in groups according to geographic region as well as specific airplane types. We're talking about the Twin Comanches, possibly the best-looking, best- performing light twins ever built — and certainly one of the best airplanes for the money. The heading indicator is where the attitude indicator ought to be, and the altimeter is over at the lower left, where we've come to expect to see the turn coordinator. Then, the student was made to practice VMC demonstrations and engine-out maneuvering at 500 feet agl — or less. Now that the Twin Comanche is well into its third decade, corrosion and other airframe wear and tear is beginning to take its toll. He used some of the proceeds of the partial sale to buy a new Mooney 201. The key is to manage both power and configuration well in advance of a descent or landing and to plan each approach as though you were flying a high- performance airplane — which the Twin Comanche definitely is. The Piper Twin Comanche is powered by two Lycoming IO-320-B1A engine. A 1982 airworthiness directive (AD) requires that the Rajays' turbine housings be inspected or replaced, if necessary, every 200 hours. Muncie Aviation also worked closely with MJ Aircraft Interiors in Anderson, Indiana, for the design and installation of a new interior. 'Mark II' Twin Comanche Rebuilt and refurbished to his own specs, this loaded lightplane answers one pilot's dream The Robertson STOL, Miller 200 Jet Profile Twin Comanche gets off over a 50-foot obstacle in 1,120 feet, cruises at 223 mph. Today, J.L. As part of its sales pitch, Piper claimed that a Twin Comanche could be operated for $17 an hour. Osage County Guns, Pepper proudly claims, is the only fly-in gun shop in the nation. He flies a Bonanza A36 based at Dulles International. LE 985 SMOH with millennium cylinders and 30hrs STOH, RE 685 SMOH. The Twin Comanche Miller conversion extends the nose to include what many say is a truly watertight baggage locker. Snow claims that the Lopresti mods gave him an extra nine to 10 knots in high- speed cruise, but that that advantage went away when the Robertson kit was added. Miller Aviation of Horseshoe Bay, Texas, used to hold the STCs for a number of interesting Twin Comanche mods. The first Twin Comanche PA-30 was delivered in 1963. Annual 7/2020. In 2012, Ed Pepper acquired the turbonormalized Miller-conversion Piper Twin Comanche N99AR for $137,000, and heâs invested more than $350,000 since thenâmaking his airplane into what arguably could be called one of the best personal twins in the world. One airplane I adored, but try finding one, is a Miller Twin Comanche. • Garmin GTX 33ES ADS-B transponder The airplane photographed for this article, a 1969 PA-30C owned by Tom Snow of Chattanooga, Tennessee, is a more typical example of a Twin Comanche modification. Not a member? The turbo models' empty weight is almost 200 pounds more than their standard-equipped, normally aspirated brethren, so all-engine and single- engine rates of climb are lower (but single-engine service ceiling rises to 8,800 feet), and the useful load of an average-equipped airplane — at 1,341 pounds — is some 50 pounds lighter. The drill was to make an initial power setting with the throttles, then screw in the wastegate controls to close the wastegates and raise the manifold pressures to a desired level. Hangared at Madison MS this one is ready for immediate delivery. One tries to hold on to fiscal discipline while being torn by emotions. • KLR 10 lift reserve indicator system Thanks to Pepper’s vision and Muncie Aviation’s relentless labor and skill, N99AR flies a little closer to heaven, where it so aptly belongs. RAJAY Turbo Products is excited to announce a solution is in the works to terminate FAA AD 81-19-04. Once out of high school, he worked for a telephone company. Ham-fist a manually controlled wastegate and you're asking for an early engine overhaul at best, and a catastrophic failure if you're unlucky. You are looking a B55 speeds at 20 gph with those. It's only natural to wonder why Piper made the C/R switch. Please login below for an enhanced experience. A 1977 AD calls for inspection or replacement of the aileron hinge brackets every 100 hours. Why would anyone invest so much in a 46-year-old airplane? In 1965, the PA-30B was introduced. Bidders for the STCs may restart production of the Miller mods after negotiations are finalized. It's arguably the best light twin available, and its bang for the buck is exceeded only by its classy looks. Pepper’s Twin Comanche is a manifestation of Pepper’s perfectionism, experience, and vision. The -C and Turbo C models came out in 1968 and brought with them instrument panels laid out in the modern, standard T-configuration for the flight instruments. A 1979 AD requires an inspection or replacement of aileron nose ribs every 100 hours. AOPA Pilot Editor at Large Tom Horne has worked at AOPA since the early 1980s. Many are early PA–30 or –30Bs, and not all of them have the same level of modifications. The bungees also keep the gear from collapsing after a manual gear extension, so it pays to replace them more often than the mandatory interval. Numerous Miller, Lopresti and Knots2U airframe mods, speed brakes and 198 gallon fuel capacity are complimented by a Garmin 750 touchscreen with ADS-B. These valves are exchange only on like-kind rebuildable cores; available separately. They include the stainless steel bowls [kit 757-187]; fresh cadmium plating, and look as new. • Bendix/King KRA 405 radar altimeter This STC is available from Isham Inc. and Knots2U. Not a member? So in large part, we can thank the Twin Comanche for today's saner multiengine training guidelines. 7304Y has been modified with Miller and speed modifications and flyโs like a dream. The ICS is an invaluable source of information about any and everything having to do with Comanche singles or twins. Seems that the Twin Comanche has earned a reputation for lifting off before reaching VMC. Multiengine students in the 1960s usually followed a curriculum that would scare the daylights out of today's multiengine instructors. Add to all of this a new panel with Garmin avionics, digital radar, Century 4000 autopilot, JPI 960, all magneto and operational switches moved to a new console above the windshield, and more. The Twin Comanche was developed from the single engine Comanche by Ed Swearingen who at the time operated a facility that specialized in the modification of production aircraft. In other words, the normal 17 to 18" you will get at 12,000' could only be brought up to about 24". That would be a great resource for the community. While the denser air near the surface made for a maximum of thrust asymmetry, and therefore an excellent demonstration of control problems, some Twin Comanche students and instructors found the experience far too realistic. Membership in the ICS is $40 per year, and this includes a subscription to the monthly Comanche Flyer, a magazine that does a great job of filling you in on routine maintenance topics, as well as techniques for coping with various ADs and service bulletins, and also providing stories about members' flying experiences. Only about 12 PA–30C models with Miller mods exist; more significantly, only three or four are turbonormalized, and fewer have hot props and an ice plate for the pilot’s windshield. There are a bewildering number of modifications for the Twin Comanche. STC SA2490SW approves the installation of extended wingspan new-style wingtips, recognition lights and the dorsal fin on the following Piper airplanes: PA-28R-180 (all serial numbers) and PA-28R-200 (serial numbers 28R-35001 through 28R-7135329). Lopresti claims that the Wow Cowls provide a greater volume of cooling air to the engines than the stock cowls, in spite of the small circular inlets. Kristin Standard GE 4500 or Whelen LED Bulbs. The Twin Comanche is a reliable, easy to maintain aircraft with minimal system complexities. TTAF 5658. The airplane is well supported, thanks to a well-organized owners group and a plentiful supply of parts and modifications. This STC is available from Isham Inc. and Knots2U. Phill - Air offers you the opportunity to learn learn to fly at a fast - paced environment at Dover's premier airport, Delaware Air Park. Leaks in either System can cause poor Performance. Already a member? Get the latest news on coronavirus impacts on general aviation, including what AOPA is doing to protect GA, event cancellations, advice for pilots to protect themselves, and more. In 1966, the PA-30B step-up model was offered which included a third side windows and six seats. The answer is complex. Supplemental type certificates originally owned by J.W. Just be prepared to drop $500,000 or so for a Bullet with all the trimmings. The airplane's age should be a warning flag to prospective buyers. • Two Plane Power regulators From 1970 the Twin Comanche C emphasized a somewhat higher cruising rate and inner part upgrades, while the PA-39 Twin Comanche C/R was fitted with counter turning motors. But airspeed control can pose a challenge. A bare-bones, single-vacuum-pump, day-VFR-equipped, four-seat PA-30 (brochures called it the "Sportsman" version) would have cost just $33,900 or so in those days. By 1971, 40 fatal accidents had taken place. Because of the drains' design, trapped water can cause the strainer bowls and filters to corrode and clog the system. The airplane's laminar flow airfoils shed lift quickly and are more suited for high-speed cruising than exploring the slowest end of the flight envelope. • G500 flight display Lose the left engine and that extra thrust can make the airplane yaw uncontrollably and, if the airspeed is low enough, cause the airplane to roll inverted. Flown properly by adequately-trained and current pilots, the airplane behaves quite predictably. Knots 2 U, Inc. (616/526-9646) leads the pack, with no fewer than 10 speed mods. After an investigation by the National Transportation Safety Board, the FAA put out an advisory circular banning single-engine stalls (except when performed by qualified test pilots), discouraging VMC demonstrations in density altitude conditions where VMC is close to stall speed, and requiring that stall demonstrations be done at altitudes high enough to permit spin recovery — and in no case lower than 1,500 feet agl. By now, many have been heavily modified and improved with the latest avionics, but an original-condition airplane will have a non-standard instrument configuration. Author Steve Zaboji is an ATP, CFII, MEI, and Comanche Flyer Foundation/Comanche Pilot Proficiency Program instructor with 12,500 hours. The Twin Comanche is an excellent airplane, and its value in the used market continues to rise. Due to upcoming changes in my military career, I am listing for sale N7304Y, my PA-30-200, 1964 Piper Twin Comanche. The cruise speed is 168 kts, the stall speed is 60 kts, and the range is 724 miles. The pilot new to the breed should seek out qualified instruction, maintain a high level of proficiency, and be well aware of the airplane's maintenance requirements. Because the airplane is so clean, it is reluctant to dissipate airspeed. During transition training Pepper started thinking about avionics options. The Twin Comanche's wing is set low to the ground, which makes it very efficient in ground effect and has earned the airplane recognition as a floater. He’s flown everything from ultralights to Gulfstreams and ferried numerous piston airplanes across the Atlantic. Get the latest news on coronavirus impacts on general aviation, including what AOPA is doing to protect GA, event cancellations, advice for pilots to protect themselves, and more. Then he talked with Bill Roundtree and Ken Talhelm at Muncie Aviation, and that’s when things took off. Even though Orville and Wilbur employed this concept, Piper hawked the PA-39s as revolutionary design breakthroughs. Pepper’s fascination with airplanes and aviation began at a young age in rural Illinois, where he saved his allowance and earnings from his job at McDonald’s for flight lessons. A membership in the International Comanche Society is a great way to enhance your Comanche ownership experience. Age belies the instrument panels of the straight PA-30s and the -B models. Airworthy Comanche Forum - Want to buy Deiced turbo PA30/39 - Yes - and some facility is finishing up a Twin Comanche installation as we speak. This smaller-than- stock nosewheel lowers the airplane's angle of attack, which helps the airplane stay on the ground during the takeoff run and helps to prevent nosewheel-first arrivals on landing. Technical Data Wing Span 11.2 Length (m) 7.6 Height (m) 2.5 Take Off Distance (m) 480 Landing Distance (m) 570 Absolute Ceiling (x100ft) 190 Optimum Ceiling (x100ft) 140 Maximum Speed (kts/M) However, it's difficult to detect water as it flows by. • Two Plane Power alternators One accepted technique for coping with this eagerness to fly is to lift off anyway, then fly in ground effect until airspeed rises above the customary VMC-plus-five target. At this time, however, the STCs seem to be in a state of transfer, and no orders are being taken. Aircraft Owners & Pilots Association Find it free on the store. The PA30/39 is covered by an STC for boots - so this is available whether you go with a Miller Conversion or an unmodified PA30/39. To be near family, Pepper moved to Missouri in 2003, and in 2004 he bought 70 acres of land near Belle, Missouri, where over a few short years he built a home; an airstrip, charted Pepper Field (MU14); and a hangar. The other offered a new right engine with a counterclockwise-rotating propeller, a modification that would in essence transform a PA-30 into a PA-39. These Miller modifications took the highly rated and sot after Twin Comanche, and made them faster, more capable and added much needed storage. So the temptation is to hold the airplane on the runway as speed builds to the magic number. He didn't want the drag of a step, and he wanted to make stepping up to the wing as easy as possible. Pepper selected the upgrade to gain better utility out of the twin. The big improvement here was the introduction of counter-rotating propellers. Worn-out bungees can cause the gear to hang up and have been linked in the past to several gear-up landings, of which there have been many, many, many cases. These cowls also allow easier access to the starters and alternator belt. Operating the Rajays requires a deft touch. In that same year, 100-hour inspections of the aileron spar doublers were also put in effect through an AD, although installation of a Piper modification kit obviates this rule. General Information Registration Number: N16TW Make: Piper Model: PA-30 Twin Comanche Serial Number: 30-527 Airframe Total Time: 3,888.5 hours L/H Engine: 565.0 SMOH (1991 OVERHAUL) R/H Engine: 1,365.4 SMOH (1976 OVERHAUL) Prop Times: That aside, the Twin Comanche will serve you as no other light twin can. Optimum cruise speeds of the turbocharged Twin Comanches were advertised as hovering around 200 knots at 12,000 feet, or 214 knots at 24,000 feet. Aileron spars and aileron hinge attach brackets are other sore spots in the Twin Comanche's design. A J.P. Instruments EDM 960 lights up the panel with engine data. Smitten by aviation, he left the phone company and enrolled at Parks College, in what turned out to be the last class that offered strictly an A&P curriculum. webco door latch kit stc: sa2550ce. Yes, spending a lot on conversions is compromising short-term liquidity, but on the other hand, you can’t take it with you. No more so than any other light twin. One recommended the installation of wing leading edge stall strips, a rudder gap seal, and an aileron/rudder interconnect system. The notes in RED are mine. Anyone contemplating the purchase of a Twin Comanche — or a single-engine Comanche — owes it to him- or herself to join the 4,000-member International Comanche Society (Hangar 3, Wiley Post Airport, Bethany, Oklahoma 73008; 405/491-0321). J.W. The tip tanks, which carry an extra 30 gallons of fuel, proved a very popular option, and by the late 1960s most Twin Comanches had either been ordered with them or outfitted with aftermarket tip tanks then manufactured by Brittain Industries. The Polyurethane is not affected by UV light, meaning it will never yellow and it will not change the cosmetic appearance of your aircraft. The Turbo Twin Comanche B also made its debut in 1965. For all its performance, it may be hard for some to believe that Twin Cโฆ For example, all the electrical switches were identical toggle switches, making them easy to misidentify, and circuit breakers were kept beneath a trap door below the power quadrant. Miller had an STC for their conversions, but the engine is different, so the mounting, etc, is different. In conventional American light twins, the critical engine is the left engine. A jazzy, super-sleek cowl, festooned with NACA induction air scoops and slit-like air intakes, is also available. Loaded with mods. In another safety move, a 1969 AD required a 9-knot hike in the airplane's VMC (from 80 mph/69 knots, to 90 mph/78 knots) and a new red radial line on the airplane's airspeed indicator to correspond with the new value. Narco Mark 12s were de rigueur in the early 1960s, so don't expect too much in the way of avionics sophistication from a standard-issue early Twin Comanche. In 1974 Pepper opened a gun store in Bensenville, Illinois, and in 1978 he acquired a business partner. By 1967, 13 fatal training accidents had occurred in Twin Comanches. Another is to install Harlan Associates' 15-inch diameter nosewheel. (It may not be Goodrich - I remember getting a call from the facility doing this but I kept no notes). A complete compliment of cadmium plated exchange steel components related to the landing gear is โฆ The Twin Comanche Miller conversion in flight. The last of the Twin Comanches were the PA-39s, which were rolled out in early 1970. • Garmin GWX 70 weather radar Takeoff and landing distances over the FAA's mythical 50-foot obstacle are slashed by half, compared to an unmodified airplane. • True Blue Power TA102 USB charging ports. • L-3 Avionics ESI-2000 Trilogy electronic standby instrument The groups, called "tribes," come together annually to share information and just plain have a good time. When I bought my Turbo Twin Comanche, a Miller converted '67 PA-30, the right engine turbo System could produce about only 6" of boost at 12,000'. We are accepting pre-orders at Oshkosh EAA Airventure at reduced "show prices" for the following aircraft models: PA30/PA39, PA-24-250, M20E/M20F, LA-4-200. dual 50amp inter-av alternators stc: sa334sw. By having the left propeller turn to the right and the right propeller turn to the left, the C/R models eliminate the critical engine. Piper PA-30,39 Series JW Miller Nose Taxi Lights (12 V) $690.00: JWM3400: LOCID: ELP4030D: Piper PA-30,39 Twin Comanche Series JW Miller Nose Taxi Lights. You have to do this s-l-o-w-l-y or risk overboosting an engine's manifold pressure limits. Additionally, after painstaking research, Muncie Aviation obtained the certification needed to install deicing boots, a rare Twin Comanche mod. Early model Twin Comanches, designated PA-30s, came out between 1963 and 1965. Yawing moments in engine-out situations are reduced, and low speed handling is greatly improved. A new overhead panel is one of Muncie Aviationâs custom touches. If you installed all the speed mods, it appears the added speed benefit would give you an airplane with 300- knot cruise speeds — if the claims are to be believed. The critical engine is the engine that, if it failed, would create the worst deterioration of performance and handling. Today the cost of acquiring a new general aviation aircraft is prohibitively high for most pilots. The ICS sells a great book on Comanche maintenance, and Taylor also stars in a videotape about Comanche technical tips. Short Delivery flight of a rare 1966 Twin-Comanche with 200HP turbo-charged engines, Robertson STOL and an updated Glass Cockpit. A clear plastic tube located near the drain knob lets the pilot observe any particulates as they're drained from the sumps and confirm that the flow of fuel has stopped when the drain knob is pushed back in. Another AD mandates inspection of the turbines at 100-hour intervals. Some of them are shared with its single-engine counterparts, the PA-24 Comanches, which antedate the twins by six years. But as it turned out, many unlucky — or unwise — students and instructors learned that Twin Comanches could bite back. Aircraft Owners & Pilots Association Find it free on the store. For a top-of- the-line "Professional" Twin Comanche, you paid about $41,200. Hans Neubert Anaheim, California. There is definitely no shortage of yarns about the Twin Comanche's alleged behavior problems. This highly modified Miller Converted Twin Comanche is equipped with De-Ice Boots, Heated Props and Windscreen Hot Plate. 1967 TWIN COMANCHE โข $120,000 โข FOR SALE BY OWNER โข 1967 PA-30. Miller Aviation of Texas enable modifications to the Twin Comanche such as an extended nose with a baggage compartment, nacelle lockers, and a 40-horsepower increase per engine utilizing Lycomingโs 200-horsepower IO-360. The spinner is designed for superior aerodynamics by reducing the size of โฆ N99AR is a turbonormalized 1969 C model, with 200-horsepower engines, hot props, windshield deice plate, baggage compartment in the nose, nacelle lockers, and eight fuel tanks for 140 gallons (134 usable). He added a new interior, new avionics, and a number of mechanical upgrades, including speed brakes, new control wheels, high-output alternators, deice boots, relief tubes, and fiberglass repairs. Landings are another source of conversational fodder. It is a complex light twin, with retractable landing gear, seating 4 (in original models) to 6 (in later models), and has cruising speeds ranging from 160-210 mph from two 4-cylinder 160 hp (120 kW) Lycoming IO-320-B1A fuel injected engines, but 200 hp (150 kW) engines were available as a modification by Miller Aviation. Also, human factors was still an infant science in those days, and old Twin Comanches show it. A good-looking, four- to six-place light twin that goes 170 knots on 17 gph and costs a relatively modest $45,000 to $80,000? Was this a Miller Twin or a stock 160hp Twinkie? (NB: The Twin Comanche is not certified for flight in known icing conditions.) It has the Lopresti cowls, spinners, gap seals, spats, and splitters, plus the Miller nose and a Robertson STOL kit. He began flying in 1975 and has an airline transport pilot and flight instructor certificates. Creation of the Twin Comanche stopped in 1972 - by which time just the PA-39 was accessible - because of the flooding of Piper's Lock Haven plant. Pepper also had a fascination for guns, an interest that led to a home-based, part-time gun business. N88WW A 1972 Piper Comanche Twin sporting two Lycoming IO-320's. Comanches come in models from the 180 to the 400, twin and single and can be equipped with everything from day VFR with one โฆ Knots 2U offers a smooth sleek spinner for the Twin Comanche aircraft. That's because both propellers rotate to the right, and the right propeller develops more thrust than the left, owing to its comparative surplus of thrust at an arm farther from the center of gravity than the left engine's. Alas, Snow sold his Twin Comanche shortly after the photographs were taken. PROP TTSMOH 625/625. Snow, who owns a company that manufactures and maintains welding machinery, uses his Twin Comanche to reach distant customers who need urgent repairs. Lopresti Speed Merchants (800/859-4757) sells its low-drag Wow Cowls (add 8 mph) for the Twin Comanche, along with its pointy Winner Spinners. Osborne of Oro Grande, California (619/245-8477), holds that tip tank STC. These came with Rajay turbochargers, which utilized manually operated wastegates. The whole idea was to let pilots sump their tanks without having to wreck their suits by crawling beneath the wings. The empty weight is 2,210 lbs and the gross weight 3,600 lbs. They have the Lyc 200hp engines, nose baggage nacelle baggage (looks similar to C310 nacelle baggage. Is truly a one-of-a-kind airplane whose utility and performance exceed those of airplanes. 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