I hope that helps. Is 25 yards the same as 100 yards? You will still need to confirm and refine your BZO at those appropriate distances. Remember that you probably will have to adjust your windage and elevation as you move further out. 1.2" low at 25 yards should give you a 50 yard zero if I remember correctly. Zeroing your AR-15 at 200 yards is probably not very practical, though; you’d have to be able to accurately see your target at 200 yards and hold the rifle still enough to make a decent group. Thank You !!!! So no dialing or hold over needed in that case, not even a thought required. I usually go to 25 yards to get it on paper and find that once zeroed at 25, my 100 yard shots are about 4.5 inches high. And with this 50/200 zero when you aim dead […] Zero your gun at 50 yards, 2-3/4″ high of absolute dead center on your target…no left, no right, simply 2-3/4″ high. Very good combat sight in for irons and RDS because it takes no thought until past 300 yards. That would reduce your dead on hold to 250 with a 25 yard zero on the 8 inch target above. For the subsonic zero range: 10/100 yard zero. All shots inside 15 will require a hold over but that's it. That would reduce your dead on hold to 250 with a 25 yard zero on the 8 inch target above. All that is necessary for Trolls to flourish, is for good men to do nothing. That setting leaves me 2″ high at 25 yds, 3″high at 50 yds, back to 2″ at 75 yds and zero at 100 yds. 25 Yard Zero – I don’t care at all for sighting in at 25 yards. This was last week with my .243 with handloads. I've found a company that offers a 25 yard zero target that will put you at a 36 yard zero. One of the most popular “Battle sight” zeros for the AR-15 is the 50/200. Copyright © 1996-2020 AR15.COM LLC. As far as coming to the right place: Pay particular attention to Molon. At 25 yards, a 50-yard zero is also pretty close to your actual point of aim. Now move to 10 yards from the target and shoot at the aiming point with the 30 yard pin. IE I sight in my rifle at 50yrd with 62grn ammo because ideally I will use this for it's intended purpose. With the 50 yard zero we see that the high impacts are almost completely eliminated in comparison to the 25 yard. Even with the pistol he can aim a little low with confidence for a 100 yard shot. zero need quick answer [ Re: Jackindistress ] Your bullet will be zero ar 25 yrds, then 2.7" high at 100 yards, 2.95" high at 150 yards, and 1.88" high at 200 yards, coming through zero once again at 245 yards. Now let's take a look at 300 yard … Some reference material. I've seen a lot of deer shot with a 50 yard zero though so it could be done. – You want to zero your rifle in at 25 yards because it will allow you to have accurate shot placement from point blank to about 300 yards. The 50 yard zero provides for effective center-mass hits on target at the ranges where a carbine is most commonly used. So aiming at a steel circle, you would have to hold off of the target. Then 4.7" low at 300 yards. You will then be dead-on zeroed at 100 yards because gravity will see to it. I zeroed it today @25 yards ( indoor range max), 150g win power points, it has 1 inch rise weaver quadlocks, and a hawke 3x9x50. Pros: The 25 yard zero on a 16” rifle offers a point of aim point of impact out to 330ish yards. Thus, the military zeroing procedure is not a true 25 yard zero, it is reality a 300 yard zero that is done at 25 meters. The 36 Yard Zero Target. Repeat shots from 20, 30, 40, and 50 yards always using the 30 yard … Hey guys, Im shooting a marlin 336 , 30-30. From the distance of 165 yards out to the 250 yards shown in the graph, the 50-yard-zero has a distinct advantage over the 100-yard-zero. except for a very few specific combinations of bullet weight, barrel length/muzzle velocity and height of sights above the bore, a 50 yard zero. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_18/556355_Improved_25M_AR15A2___A3___A4_and_AR15_Carbine_Zero_Targets____Calibrated_for_50_200M__100M__300M.html. It’s also easier to find a range that can accommodate sighting in at 25 yards opposed to 100 yards. As stated, you should be about 1" low at 25 yards for a 50 yard zero. Conversely, a 100 yard zero means, with a dead-on hold, the bullet's maximum mid-range rise will cause misses by shooting over when shooting at typical small game targets, such as the head of a squirrel. From a rest with factory ammo the best you are going to get group wise is 3-4" at 25 yards. With a 50 yard zero, your bullet will only be about 1.57 inches above the line of sight at 100 yards and height maxes out just over 2 inches above around 150 yards. I've seen a lot of deer shot with a 50 yard zero though so it could be done. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. When zeroed at 25 yards the round will also be zeroed at 300 yards. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. I was wondering if it was shooting low because it was bore sighted at about 200 yards or something like that. Wish me luck this weekend when I make it to the range. [Last Edit: 8/3/2016 5:12:56 PM EST by txsimple], [Last Edit: 8/3/2016 7:39:13 PM EST by Jupiter7200]. the last time i shot it at 200 it dropped like 18 inches though but that might have been my eyes. Why a 25 yard zero? [Last Edit: 12/27/2011 7:08:50 AM EST by peligro113], [Last Edit: 12/27/2011 8:04:57 AM EST by peligro113]. Remember that you probably will have to adjust your windage and elevation as you move further out. The elevation difference in both bullets is closer to .1". So, the simple answer is that with a 50 yard zero you will be good out to about 230 yards. Take a couple of shots at the aiming point from 30 yards to confirm that you bow is "zeroed in" at 30 yards. If so I only want to bring it to the left to compensate for the inch off to the right. EDIT: My data is wrong. Choose your zeroing scheme based on the pertinent facts. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. A 50 yard zero allows the shooter to use a simple center-mass hold to ranges of point blank to 200-250 yards, depending on rifle and ammunition combination. You can begin to move the target further back once you are consistently hitting the bullseye. The 36 Yard Zero Target. Title: Print Created Date: Your POI should be 0.6 inches below POA at 25 yards for a 50 yard BSZ shooting M193. 36 yard zero okay , where is that bullet gonna be at 50, 75, and 100 yards? 25 yard zero 25 yards is +0.0 50 yards is -1.0 75 yards is -4.0 100 yards is -9.1 Another reason to zero at 10 yards in the accuracy of pistols in general. Thanks everyone for the fantastic information. When the M-16 is zeroed in in this manner for a simulated 300 yards, the 100 yard, 200 yard and 300 yard marked range calibrations on … AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. As a general rule of thumb, any spitzer bullet traveling 1800 fps or faster will shoot flat enough to zero sights for 200 yards and hit deer reliably at all ranges under 200. If you know you shoot a 3/4 inch group at 50 yards, that then becomes 1.5 inches at 100 and around 3 inches at 100 when applied linearly. Zero at 50 yards and leave it alone. Copyright © 1996-2020 AR15.COM LLC. This is a pretty flat trajectory, but the 30-yard zero looses its attractiveness as it drops down to 5.37″ below point-of-aim at 100 yards. I am hoping to receive some advice from the deep well of wisdom here. There is no way I'd ever take a 200 yard shot without verifying my point of impact at that range though. Your POI should be 0.6 inches below POA at 25 yards for a 50 yard BSZ shooting M193. Thats just wat i needed, i tried to zero my gun yesterday at 50 and it was a challenge having to use a scope to see my shots, so if your range is 25 yds and you want a 50 yd zero, you need to see where the bullet impacts at 25yds and while staying at 25yds adjust the aimpoint so your bullet impact comes up an inch at 25 yds. 1/4 inch left or right at 50 yards will give you 1 min of angle on a 100 yard target (= 1 " off) and be 2' off on the 200 yard target. For a 50 yd zero, the 25 yd target is halfway, so half of the sightline is 1.25". /u/exile0514 has the correct data. Figuring out holdover on the fly (and without a dual-reticle optic) is a nonstarter in this case. Cons: 300 yards is a 9-inch hold over and 400 yards is a 27-inch holdover. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. I can zero at 50 yards and know I can still land a shot at 200 yards. All shots inside 15 will require a hold over but that's it. I knew I was asking at the right place! When this is added to your drop, the zero hold difference becomes even shorter. Shoot 25yards and confirm at 100. Sight in two inches high at 100 yards. So with a 200 yard zero, a hunter can hold dead on from 0 to 257 yards and kill the animal, assuming he does his part and fires an error-free shot. Fifty yards is our initial intersection, and 200 yards is our true zero. A very small amount off at 50 yards will make it off a lot at 200 - 300 yards. The 25-yard zero climbs over the point-of-aim at 25 yards and only reaches approximately 2/10″ before falling back through point-of-aim again at 50 yards. AR15.COM is the world’s largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. AR15.COM is the world’s largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. Move out to 100 yard and plan on being 1.75" to 2.0" high to approximate a 200 yard ZERO. The short zeros get even worse the further you go out, at 100 yards its shooting like 3ft high. 0.6 inches at 25 yards is roughly 2.5 MOA. The bullet path above and below POA is slightly more than 1" out to around 200 yards with a 50 yard zero, as Derek's graphs illustrate. You will still need to confirm and refine your BZO at those appropriate distances. All Rights Reserved. In the recent carbine courses we have discussed various yard lines to zero your rifles along with the pros and cons of each yard line. a large deer kill zone is about a 12" max diamiter circle so a small amount of off zero will still harvest the deer. But that is also the round itself not the zero’s fault. I was wondering if it was shooting low because it was bore sighted at about 200 yards or something like that. It’s also easier to find a range that can accommodate sighting in at 25 yards opposed to 100 yards. I'd verify at 100 and 200 yards. Start the process of zeroing at 25 yards. As you might know, a 50 yard zero is effectively the same as a 200 meter one due to how the bullet travels. 0.6 inches at 25 yards is roughly 2.5 MOA. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. If that is correct, by how much? Hope your range day is fun and productive! After shooting it a while I feel comfortable with a 50 yard zero from 0-200 yards and maybe a bit further. Hey guys, Im shooting a marlin 336 , 30-30. So this zero drops quickly past 300 yards. Second, for a 50 yard zero, am I correct that at 100 yards, my POI should be above the POA? The 50/200 zero variations and the 100 yard zero work well because they have been tested and had various bugs worked out. I've found a company that offers a 25 yard zero target that will put you at a 36 yard zero. If you know you shoot a 3/4 inch group at 50 yards, that then becomes 1.5 inches at 100 and around 3 inches at 100 when applied linearly. I hope that helps. I want to zero an Aimpoint Pro site on an AR15 for 50 yards, but the range has only 25 yards or 100 yards. With a short 12-15 yard zero you have to remember both a hold over up close and to hold lower at 25 yards. The Myth: A 25-yard zero puts you “dead-on” at 100 yards. With the 36 yard zero being fairly non standard should I just avoid it due to most ranges not offering that particular known distance? He knows stuff. 25 Yard Zero – I don’t care at all for sighting in at 25 yards. Zeroing your AR-15: Ballistics 101 the 50 yard zero brought to you by Midwest Shooting Enthusiast MSE. This places that same .270 bullet 0.4 inches low at 25 yards, 1.41 inches high at 100 yards, 2.51 inches low at 250 yards and finally slips below the 6 inch vital zone at 257 yards. Zero at 50 yards and leave it alone. 25 yards. Just aim for the vitals and pull the trigger without worrying about bullet drop. With a 50 yard zero, your bullet will only be about 1.57 inches above the line of sight at 100 yards and height maxes out just over 2 inches above around 150 yards. In the recent carbine courses we have discussed various yard lines to zero your rifles along with the pros and cons of each yard line. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_18/556355_Improved_25M_AR15A2___A3___A4_and_AR15_Carbine_Zero_Targets____Calibrated_for_50_200M__100M__300M.html, http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1241/m193ballisticchartny2.jpg. 50 yard zero is the best. The next step is to move the target out to 100 yards. Zeroing at 25 meter, 36 yard, and 50 yard is only to get you on paper and close to where you should be shooting at 300 meters, 300 yards, and 200 yards respectively. A zero at 50 yards is better than 25, but still fails to take best advantage of the bullets trajectory. Your actual point of impact should be high by 4 to 5 inches 9-inch hold and... 12/27/2011 7:08:50 AM EST by peligro113 ], [ Last Edit: 12/27/2011 8:04:57 AM by. The trigger without worrying about bullet drop paper at 50 yards is roughly 5 MOA 62 gr but! 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